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米友1:货值多少呀?
Yooman:应收尾款约41000.00美刀
米友2:哪里的客户呀?
Yooman:玻利维亚
米友3:是老客户吗?
Yooman:合作3年多的客户
米友4:啥时候发生的事情?
Yooman:2019年12月5日出现还箱信息,据此判断被无单放货。
米友5:现在是2020年2月3日,你的尾款收回来了吗?
Yooman:基本算收回了,目前应收尾款还剩下约1000刀。
米友6:出事之前买中信保了吗?
Yooman:没有
米友7:被无单放货后,你是怎么收回尾款的?
Yooman:请看下方分解。
米友8:看完这篇文章我能得到什么?
Yooman:你能得到
催款柒部曲——我的催款mailgroup
毅冰大大的建议
打官司那点事儿~
我的经验,你的惊艳!
成为戏精~
变帅
变美
变有钱
......
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1、 2019年10月22日从上海港出运2*40HQ到玻利维亚,由于玻利维亚是内陆国,海运只能运抵智利,查海运tracking两个高箱是2019年11月24日到港,推测货物在2019年11月30日到达玻利维亚保税仓库。
2、业务员从2019年11月中旬收讫提单copy后开始提醒客户付款,但客户拖到2019年11月30日才提供“尾款水单”,水单上写错了我们公司名,但收款账号正确。业务员当即告知客户错误点,客户回复2019年12月3日前往银行修改。
3、客户在2019年12月3日开始抛出第一个“理由”说不得不推迟修改银行水单,并重申只要账号对,货款依旧能到账。
4、客户失联2天,到2019年12月5日,我们在船公司官网上看到第一个40HQ的还箱信息,12月6日出现第二个40HQ的还箱信息。
5、 2019年12月9日起客户开始各种借口、理由、耍泼、受害者抱怨、失联......而上海端的指定货代开始以“此单已结单无法帮我们追踪到货物到达玻利维亚后的情况”、“有还箱信息不代表无单放货”、“正在等海外代理答复”等理由阻碍我们追缴货款,甚至还拒接和挂断我们的电话。
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Yooman问:2019年最火的剧是啥?
米友1答:这跟你血汗钱有毛线关系?
米友2答:应该是《庆余年》吧。
Yooman问:你也看了吧?
米友2、3、4、5...... 看了看了,被腾讯坑了不少钱!
米友1:#¥……%……@@@&*
Yooman: 有没有想过这剧为啥会火?为什么现在大部分人都喜欢看“爽剧”胜过看“虐剧”?
米友1:你到底想说啥???
我想说的是,一开始构思这篇文章的时候,我很纠结是否要详细阐述这64天的追货过程。具体到每次沟通的邮件,每次WhatsApp和Wechat上的聊天记录全都截图放出来,好让大家一起感受下这64天以来我们所经历的纠结、失落、焦虑、愤怒。
“爽剧”的大火让我思考写这篇文章的初心。除了感谢和向关注此事的米友们“报平安”,我更希望看这篇文章的你能快速有所得着,同时这也是我个人的一次自我总结。
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被无单放货后,第一步怎么办?
一个字:催!
催客户!
催指定货代!!
同步进行!!!
怎么催?
邮件、WhatsApp、WeChat上给客户发催款函,内容和发送时间保持一致!当然不能缺少打电话!
催款函怎么写?
爽剧来了!
可直接复制再编辑的催款mailgroup,请笑纳!
Date:12月13日北京时间上午9点发送
XXX(注意:没有Dear,没有Hi,别客气,直呼其名!),
What happened for the payment??? Two containers have already arrived at Bolivia more than 10 days, We really think that you are an honest guy. And we treasure our business relationship with personal friendship.
Please realize our position of payment tracking IN TODAY.
Best Regards
我们家业务员的名字
Date:12月13日北京时间午夜,在客户上班后两小时发送
XXX(直呼其名),
We are unable to understand why we have received no reply and no payment till now. We feel that we have shown reasonable patience and treated you a long overdue period. Two containers arrived at Bolivia more than 10 days! We cannot afford any delay at the moment.
Please reply us immediately for balancing the payment. If not, we have to take action in law and report this claim to the SINOSURE company.
Best Regards
我们家业务员的名字
Date:12月15日 发给客户, 邮件跟踪显示客户已打开看
邮件主题:Payment overdue-PO# 订单合同号
XXX(直呼其名),
We are extremely tired of your inconsistency about balance payment. Every time we proposed the payment, then you ALWAYS popped out the new reason. You didn't even advise any proof!
We have collected all data and documents of China Custom and shipping company signed bill.
Balance Payment US$41,000.00, If we will not receive your payment or payment receipt before December 19th(your time), we will immediately take below ACTIONS!!!
1. We will report you as fraud to the China Ministry of Commerce(CMC). Once they confirmed our report, you and your company will be listed in China Suspended list and the China Toys Companies will receive it from them.
Believe me, we have evidence of it and we have authorized a lawyer for the coming report.
2. We will report your shipping via China Custom with the evidence we sent to CMC. Once they confirmed our report, all of your future ordered products from China will take much much much longer time for Custom Clearance.
3. We will report this claim to the SINOSURE company. You will receive an email from the commissioner of SINOSURE.
4. We collected many photos of you and your family, we had inquired about the Online operation team on the internet, and they had taught us how to become an internet sensation. WE WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU, and it will greatly help your performance on the internet. Not only include your friend and family members will know the story between you and us!
There is no more negotiation, and we are ready for it!!!!!
Thank you very much!
我们家业务员的名字
Date:12月16日发给客户,邮件跟踪显示客户没有打开看
邮件主题: Please arrange the payment soon - PO# 订单合同号
直呼其名别客气,
Enough! We have reported a crime to SINOSURE. We have explained to the SINOSURE that you provided the false bank water bill and provided the evidence to the SINOSURE. SINOSURE will send email to your following address,
xxxxx@hotmail.com
xxxxxx@gmail.com
Commissioner of Sinosure: xxxxx@sinosure.com.cn
If we not receive your payment or payment receipt before December 19th(your time), you're going straight to the bad-faith buyers' list of SINOSURE.
Here is a synopsis of SINOSURE,
This is a credit insurance company, set up in 2001. SINOSURE credit information database covers more than 10 million companies, more than 40,000 banks, and more than 800 industries in the world, and it has about 150 domestic and foreign information channels. Its credit reporting and recovery channels cover more than 200 countries and regions. As of the end of 2018, the cumulative domestic and foreign trade and investment supported by SINOSURE exceeded USD 4 trillion; the accumulated number of customers served was 110,000, and claims paid had amounted to USD 12.7 billion.
Also, you can google SINOSURE to know more.
Best Regards
我们家业务员的名字
请注意:我们真的有请中信保帮忙在2019年12月18日发催款函。虽然案件发生时我们并没有购买中信保,但我们本就计划在12月购买中信保。出事后,虽然中信保对此票货物没有承保责任,但我们向他报告了一个高危客户,他们帮我们发一封催款函,大家相互支持未来合作更融洽!下方是中信保帮我们发函的截图。
Date:12月17日
Re: List of 118 suppliers in the XXX industry
直呼其名,
118 Chinese XXX industry factories are our suppliers, I think some of them have worked with you before. In order to help other partners avoid losses, we will inform all suppliers of the fact that you maliciously defaulted on the payment.
Your payment of US$41,000.00 was due on Dec 19.
附上我们供应商清单截图
Date:北京时间12月18日
Re: Re: How to become an Internet sensation
XXX(直呼其名),
I think you should know ALIBABA.COM, almost all China suppliers are on this B2B website, if we can not receive your payment before Dec 19th, there will be many pages about you on ALIBABA.COM.
We are a member of ASK.IMIKER.COM. This is a foreign trade industry exchange platform with over 500,000 members. If we can not receive your payment before Dec 19th, many many Chinese sales will know you!
附上客户的照片,邮箱,地址,电话。(所以说日常收集客户的信息,照片呀真的很重要,客户到展会到中国来,别忘记邀请客户多跟你拍拍合照)
Date:北京时间12月19日
Re: Re: You will famous on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Linkedin......
直呼其名别客气,
Parents are the best teachers for their children. What will the future hold for the child if he knows that his father is a man of bad faith. What his classmates and friends would think of him and his father?
If your friends know what you did to us, what will they think?
Your payment of US$41,000.00 was due on Dec 19th.
附上他家人的照片,facebook他儿子,他家人,他部分朋友的截图。
讲真,这一步真的特别狠!不到万不得已,真不建议大家用!我相信不管是中国人还是外国人,我们都很爱自己的家人。话已至此,如果客户继续沉默,我们也不打算再继续言语上的威慑。虽然我们真的有去客户的facebook上挖掘他的好友信息并做了截图和记录。但祸不及家人,如果客户继续玩失踪,我们会就此打住放弃联络客户,不再主动对他进行任何施压。
果然,老赖也是人,这封信发出去之后,失联约半个月的客户恼羞成怒,反过来威胁我们。哎哟~我喜出望外(懂我的请举手)。
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客户借口说员工偷了他的钱,他正在警察局奔走,要求我们给他更多的时间。经过沟通,我们同意最迟付款时间延长到2019年12月31日。当然,接下去我们发了一轮付款倒计时的邮件。
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在跟客户确认好新的付款截止时间后,我们快速发了一封邮件给客户,重申在微信上达成的共识。
Subject: Deadline of payment is Jan 10th, 2020
Dear XXX,
As we just confirmed on Wechat, you have more 13 days until the final payment, payment of US$41,000.00 was due on Jan 10th, 2020.
If we will not receive your payment or payment receipt before Jan 10th, 2020(your time), we will immediately take below ACTIONS!!!
1. We will report you as fraud to the China Ministry of Commerce(CMC). Once they confirmed our report, you and your company will be listed in China Suspended list and the China Toys Companies will receive it from them.
Believe me, we have evidence of it and we have authorized a lawyer for the coming report.
2. We will report your shipping via China Custom with the evidence we sent to CMC. Once they confirmed our report, all of your future ordered products from China will take much much much longer time for Custom Clearance.
3. We will report this claim to the SINOSURE company. You will receive an email from the commissioner of SINOSURE.
4. We will report all evidence to our embassy also, you will never come to China!
5. We collected many photos of you and your family, we had inquired about the Online operation team on the internet, and they had taught us how to become an internet sensation. WE WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU, and it will greatly help your performance on the internet. Not only include your friend and family members will know the story between you and us!
There is no more negotiation, and we are ready for it!!!!!
Thank you very much!
我们家业务员的名字
·················客户老奸巨猾,在争取到更多付款时间后,客户依旧没少折腾················
具体的谈判细节不展开了,看看这截图,你细品,你慢慢品!总之客户一拖再拖。
这其中各种周旋不再赘言,我们的策略就是软硬皆施。只要客户有付款的态度,一切都好谈!
事情发生后,我们家“小姑娘”失眠了两个多月,这对业务员的心态也是种熬炼!作为她的老大,除了要帮她解决问题,还要负责心理安抚,老板就是那个给足你安全感和信心的人!
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米友问:既然大概率是无单放货,为何不直接起诉指定货代?还跟客户掰扯啥?费力又费时的!
因为我们利润微薄(一个字:穷!);
因为我们实力单薄(我们是小微企业,不是有法务部的大公司)
因为请专业海事官司的律师要花2-3万人民币;
因为整个诉讼会有一审二审,总耗时将近1年。赢了官司输了钱(整个诉讼总花销将在4万人民币左右),打官司更耗时间、人力、财力!
因为总货值也就二三十万,我们相信客户或指定货代有支付能力!
总之,不到万不得已,我们不会选择打官司!
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1、 有还箱信息不代表被无单放货,所以要注意收集无单放货的证据。可以通过了解目的国货物清关流程以及堆存费和超期费的费率,据此推断客户是否有必要先将货物卸载在保税仓库以节省仓储运输费用。建议找熟悉目的国海运和清关的货代咨询了解。本案中我们找了另外一个专业做南美海运的货代了解到,玻利维亚保税仓库如果先操作还箱,将货物卸载在保税仓库,费用反而更大,当地的堆存费和超期费用其实并不高,每40HQ每月费用在400美金左右。
2、 不管是货代提单还是船公司提单,请尽早赎回放在自己手中,如遇诉讼这是非常重要的物权凭证!
3、 客户付款水单一定要仔细核对收款公司名称、账号、地址。以中国建设银行为例,当收款人公司名称写错,但账号正确的情况下,外汇依旧能到达收款人的开户行,只是无法入收款人公司账户,需要付款行发更正函到收款行后,这笔外汇才能入收款人的公司账户。
4、 有付款水单不代表客户已付款,水单也可以造假,本案中客户就涉嫌水单造假,因为2019年11月30日客户提供“付款凭证”后,我们一直没有收到该笔资金。钱落袋为安,必须到账后才能安排放单!
5、 在收集到的种种证据皆表明“被无单放货”时,不建议直接找客户“摊牌”。原因有三:1)客户会矢口否认,而你很难拿到100%证据确认货物不在保税仓;2)客户会承认,然后顺势坦坦荡荡的拖延付款;3)客户会承认,然后可能会抱怨你给他运了一批“垃圾”,导致他无法顺利将货物卖出去回笼资金,并借口向你要一大笔折扣!在本案中,我们始终未向客户“摊牌”,最后证明这样做很明智!相信你留意到目前只有一千美金未收回,客户给出的理由是有4台产品缺少了配件,所以要扣除我们1000美金(根本不带商量的)!试想下,如果我们一开始跟客户“摊牌”,按此客户尿性,局势对我们只会更被动!所以我们转向给指定货代施压。
6、 全球经济不景气,贸易保护主义抬头,给企业购买中信保,可有效对冲风险!
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片名:人生如戏,全靠演技
主演:Yooman、指定货代操作,指定货代主管
导演:Yooman
特别鸣谢:@JKLiao
Shipper:我们已经看到了还箱信息(附上船公司官网的还箱信息截图),请解释为何会这样?贵司正本货代提单还在我们手上,你们胆子也太大了吧,竟然无单放货???
指定货代:我们不可能操作无单放货的,有还箱信息也不代表被放单!
Shipper:那请贵公司提供下货物还在保税仓库的照片和视频。
指定货代:好的,我们已经跟国外代理转达贵司要求,一有反馈立刻告知你们。
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Shipper:目前种种迹象皆证明贵司“无单放货”,而贵司迟迟无法提供货物还在保税仓库的视频和照片。
指定货代:国外代理不给我们答复,我们也没有办法啊......请耐心等待,我们还在催......
Shipper:什么时候给我们明确答复?
指定货代:这个我们也说不好......我们是不可能操作无单放货的!
Shipper:那把你们海外代理的联系方式给我们。
指定货代:抱歉,我们无法提供。我们是不可能操作无单放货的!
Shipper:(暴怒)我不管是你操作的无单放货还是你海外代理操作的,我手里拿着的正本提单是你们公司出的!就好比食客去餐馆吃饭,钱付给了餐馆老板,结果食物中毒了,餐馆老板说不关他事儿,是提供原材料的供应商给了有毒的食材,要赔钱找我供应商去!请问有这样的道理吗???我们港杂费是付给你们的,不是付给你海外代理!把你领导的电话给我,我没有时间跟你耗!竟敢无单放货,你们胆子也太大了点,我倒要问问你们老板,是不是他授权你们无单放货的?!
指定货代:我们老板电话我也不知道的。
Shipper:那行,下周我去你们公司喝茶!
指定货代:我们老板基本不在公司!
Shipper:我跟你的全部通话都有录音,请问你能对你们公司的声誉负完全责任吗?我在外贸行业8年,认识的大小供应商不少于200家,认识的货代也不止你一家。我相信你的同行很乐意将我们之间的故事传扬出去,我也很乐意花点时间向我们所有供应商介绍下贵司的服务!叫你领导联系我!(主动挂机。。。)
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指定货代:你好,我们同事已经将事情全部告诉我了,现在是由我来负责这个案子。请放心我们绝对不会操作无单放货的,现在我们也在积极问海外代理情况,现在有时差,明天就会有答复的。
Shipper:好
指定货代:海外代理说客户已经安排付款了,附件中是付款水单。
Shipper:见过了,假的,都过去一个月了,钱没有到账,而且公司名称是错误的!
指定货代:OMG!!!保持联系,我们跟海外反应下情况,有进一步消息立刻告诉你。
Shipper:见这个负责人的态度积极,我决定将近一个月与客户周旋的细节和了解到的信息全部告知她,并表达不愿看到他们替客户承担责任的结局。大家都是中国人,一起赚老外的money不嗨森吗?总货值二三十万,你们的港杂费才几千块,只要能确保货物还在保税仓,我们也不愿意给贵司添麻烦!请帮忙协助确认下货物还在仓库,催促海外代理提供照片和视频,谢谢了。
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指定货代:发来了国外代理跟指定货代的邮件截图,意思是正在帮忙催促客户明确付款时间。
Shipper: 那我们再给客户几天时间,马上要过年了,年底我们也要跟供应商结清货款,压力很大!如果不按时付款给工厂,我们也会面临诉讼风险,请体谅!
·············又过了几日,见事态进展缓慢,遂决定添把柴火···············
Shipper:客户已经失联好几天了(事实),而我们已经给到客户足够的时间,现在已经没有更多耐心继续耗下去了。我们决定将货物转卖给玻利维亚的另外一个客户(假的!是为了再次确认被无单放货),很幸运集装箱里的款式正好是他需要的,对方已经答应接手,但要求去仓库现场看看货物,请告知具体的仓库地址和联系人姓名电话。
指定货代:立刻电话我......问了一堆第三方买家的情况,告诉我们转卖货物很麻烦等等......
Shipper: 不要紧,我们这个客户清关能力很强的。该客户说了,只要他去仓库看过货物就立刻汇款给我们,清关他自己搞定!麻烦帮帮忙抓紧要下地址,客户着急要这批货的,我们也着急回款好付钱给工厂。
指定货代:好的,我们跟国外窗口说下......
···················又过了几天··················
Shipper: 怎么还没有仓库地址?你们想害死我们啊?让你们帮忙催客户付款,你们做不到,现在我们好不容易找到减少损失的机会,你们又阻挠我们转卖的进程,是不是全部损失最后由你们扛???
指定货代:海外有消息了。。。。。。
·························晒一部分往来邮件,我们开始走上收款轨道····························
··································我猜你还想再问我个问题··································
米友问:谈判中为什么不直接以起诉来威胁指定货代?
因为我们想在指定货代收到诉讼状之前完成财产保全,即直接把指定货代公司的银行账户给冻结了。如果真的准备诉指定货代,不建议你时常把打官司挂在嘴边,以防对方公司提前转移资金。来个措手不及,不香吗?很多被告会迫于银行账户被冻结的压力而选择跟原告庭下和解,对原告而言可以争取到不打官司就解决问题的机会。
·······共4.1万的应收款,客户分三次汇入,最后一笔尾款在2020年1月30日汇入·······
·························余下约1000刀的应收款,我将压力踢给指定货代了···················
··········································补充几点无单放货后的建议····································
1)实际发货人必须仔细审阅相关的运输单证,查明指定货代的身份并识别出承运人;
2)马上催促承运人查询货物的下落并要求其作出书面答复;同时实际发货人也可以自己通过相关渠道查询包括集装箱流转情况等货物的下落;
3)必须注意保留之前及以后与国外客户的相关邮件和函件,特别货物是否已经被提走的证据;同时必须注意向国外客户询问的措辞,以避免被认为实际发货人同意无单放货;
4)如果确认货物的确已经被无单提货,那么建议实际发货人先行起诉承运人并要求其赔偿;
5)在起诉承运人承担无单放货责任后,再通过相应的方式向国外客户提出付款的主张。通常情况下,承运人无单放货会要求提货人出具保函,因此承运人通常会被起诉后立即给提货人以足够的压力。如果未能达成和解,那么就通过法院判决承运人承担无单放货的责任。
特别提醒注意如下几个问题:
1)海上货物运输合同的诉讼时效是一年,实际发货人必须把握好纠纷处理时间;
2)必须确认货物已经被无单放货。如果货物仍在目的港,实际发货人不仅不能向承运人索赔损失,反而有可能要承担包括运费、滞箱费、滞港费等在内的损失;
3)指定货项下,识别谁是承运人非常复杂,万一识别错误将导致起诉主体错误的后果;
4)在未收到货款前,注意不要将本票业务项下的核销单进行核销,否则将在某些法院面临无法证明损失的不利后果;所有相关证据材料必须妥善保留。
5)由于无单放货案件各个环节非常复杂,专业性很强,建议聘请专业的海商事律师负责处理。
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